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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can take the son out of Kent, but you kent take the sun out of climate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can take the son out of Kent, but you kent take the sun out of climate.<br />
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone for brewing coffee and making jokes?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone for brewing coffee and making jokes?<br />
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		<title>By: Jan Dawson</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update - Tim Patterson has just replied and confirmed - as suspected - that his views were accurately represented. See separate post &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/11/dishonest-journalism-part-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update &#8211; Tim Patterson has just replied and confirmed &#8211; as suspected &#8211; that his views were accurately represented. See separate post <a href="http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/11/dishonest-journalism-part-2/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rightsideup blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dishonest journalism - part 2</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>rightsideup blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dishonest journalism - part 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] previous post took the IBD to task for misrepresenting the views of one scientist - Ken Tapping - in its article [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] previous post took the IBD to task for misrepresenting the views of one scientist &#8211; Ken Tapping &#8211; in its article [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Dawson</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the various comments. The other was indeed Tim Patterson, who hasn&#039;t responded as yet (though from what I&#039;ve read about him elsewhere it appears he&#039;s more likely to support the thesis of the article).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the various comments. The other was indeed Tim Patterson, who hasn&#8217;t responded as yet (though from what I&#8217;ve read about him elsewhere it appears he&#8217;s more likely to support the thesis of the article).</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read more, Steve. Or better.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read more, Steve. Or better.<br />
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kim, Pappalardo does indeed quote Tapping, but if you read carefully you&#039;ll see the passages anticpating short-tern and/or major solar cooling are not attributed to Tapping.  Of course Svalgaard has approximately the same position as Tapping, as he has made entirely clear on the CA threads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kim, Pappalardo does indeed quote Tapping, but if you read carefully you&#8217;ll see the passages anticpating short-tern and/or major solar cooling are not attributed to Tapping.  Of course Svalgaard has approximately the same position as Tapping, as he has made entirely clear on the CA threads.</p>
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		<title>By: Tilo Reber</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Tilo Reber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said that you sent emails off to 2 people that were used in the article.  I assume that the other one was R. Timothy Patterson.  What did he say?  While Tapping seems to be cited, Patterson is quoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said that you sent emails off to 2 people that were used in the article.  I assume that the other one was R. Timothy Patterson.  What did he say?  While Tapping seems to be cited, Patterson is quoted.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderator, if you want to know what&#039;s going on about solar climate connections read the three Svalgaard threads at Climateaudit.org.  That&#039;s a lot of comments, now, and they are often very dense.  For the Cliff&#039;s Noters, especially examine Pete&#039;s graph in comment #454 of the Svalgaard #2 thread, and surrounding commentary.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderator, if you want to know what&#8217;s going on about solar climate connections read the three Svalgaard threads at Climateaudit.org.  That&#8217;s a lot of comments, now, and they are often very dense.  For the Cliff&#8217;s Noters, especially examine Pete&#8217;s graph in comment #454 of the Svalgaard #2 thread, and surrounding commentary.<br />
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://blog.rightsideup.org/2008/02/09/shoddy-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Pappalardo in Popular Mechanics actually does quote Tapping.

Tapping&#039;s thesis is the same as mine.  We both suspect long term cooling.  He&#039;s seems to believe the CO2 problem will just be worse at the other end when we warm up.  I&#039;m convinced we&#039;ll have developed better energy sources, and in the meantime, extra CO2 will feed and warm our billions.  

You pays your money and you takes your chances.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Pappalardo in Popular Mechanics actually does quote Tapping.</p>
<p>Tapping&#8217;s thesis is the same as mine.  We both suspect long term cooling.  He&#8217;s seems to believe the CO2 problem will just be worse at the other end when we warm up.  I&#8217;m convinced we&#8217;ll have developed better energy sources, and in the meantime, extra CO2 will feed and warm our billions.  </p>
<p>You pays your money and you takes your chances.<br />
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